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		By: JackNorrisRD		</title>
		<link>https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5585</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JackNorrisRD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2025 00:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5584&quot;&gt;Victor&lt;/a&gt;.

Victor,

Thank you for your kind words and for the links to those papers. I&#039;ve mostly given up on reporting research that detects vitamin B12 in a plant food (or in algae or fungi). It&#039;s just too time-consuming. I still report if the research measures the food&#039;s impact on methylmalonic acid levels.


I&#039;d be surprised if there will ever be a time when I think it&#039;s worthwhile to eat a supplemental food product for B12 rather than to simply take B12 supplements. Supplements are inexpensive and reliable, whereas potential plant sources have uncertain variables. I&#039;d rather take the supplement directly than pay more to run the B12 through a plant. That might not be a perfect description in all cases, but close enough.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5584">Victor</a>.</p>
<p>Victor,</p>
<p>Thank you for your kind words and for the links to those papers. I&#8217;ve mostly given up on reporting research that detects vitamin B12 in a plant food (or in algae or fungi). It&#8217;s just too time-consuming. I still report if the research measures the food&#8217;s impact on methylmalonic acid levels.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be surprised if there will ever be a time when I think it&#8217;s worthwhile to eat a supplemental food product for B12 rather than to simply take B12 supplements. Supplements are inexpensive and reliable, whereas potential plant sources have uncertain variables. I&#8217;d rather take the supplement directly than pay more to run the B12 through a plant. That might not be a perfect description in all cases, but close enough.</p>
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		By: Victor		</title>
		<link>https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5584</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Victor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2025 22:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi! 
I&#039;m a vegan who recently found about you and your work, first and foremost I&#039;d like to thank you the good work you&#039;re doing with this web, I find it really insightful. 

Secondly, I&#039;d like to ask wether you looked at the research made on Sea Buckthorn and B12. It seems quite promising. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283944530_Determination_of_Vitamin_B12_in_Sea_Buckthorn_Hippophaes_rhamnoides
It seems like many actinorrizals may have a symbiotic relationship with the bacteria Frankia, which produce B12. The plants not only absorb it but produce B12 themselves through bacterial activity inside them I believe. There&#039;s even less research on other actinorizas and B12 but they&#039;d be interesting to investigate.

Thirdly, there&#039;s a study that uses digestate (anaerobically decomposed plant matter) as a medium to grow chlorella and got a B12 in the chlorella up to 10 micrograms per gram https://www.plantsci.cam.ac.uk/news/vitamin-b12-containing-algae-boosts-fertiliser-digestate-potential

Lastly, I wanted to ask, given your long-lasting research into the topic of B12 in plants, how far away in time do you see the consolidation of a body of research that is enough for a natural vegan source to be considered a reliable B12 source? 

(PD: I take my supplements, I&#039;m just interested for self-sufficient/low-tech community building reasons)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!<br />
I&#8217;m a vegan who recently found about you and your work, first and foremost I&#8217;d like to thank you the good work you&#8217;re doing with this web, I find it really insightful. </p>
<p>Secondly, I&#8217;d like to ask wether you looked at the research made on Sea Buckthorn and B12. It seems quite promising. <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283944530_Determination_of_Vitamin_B12_in_Sea_Buckthorn_Hippophaes_rhamnoides" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/283944530_Determination_of_Vitamin_B12_in_Sea_Buckthorn_Hippophaes_rhamnoides</a><br />
It seems like many actinorrizals may have a symbiotic relationship with the bacteria Frankia, which produce B12. The plants not only absorb it but produce B12 themselves through bacterial activity inside them I believe. There&#8217;s even less research on other actinorizas and B12 but they&#8217;d be interesting to investigate.</p>
<p>Thirdly, there&#8217;s a study that uses digestate (anaerobically decomposed plant matter) as a medium to grow chlorella and got a B12 in the chlorella up to 10 micrograms per gram <a href="https://www.plantsci.cam.ac.uk/news/vitamin-b12-containing-algae-boosts-fertiliser-digestate-potential" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.plantsci.cam.ac.uk/news/vitamin-b12-containing-algae-boosts-fertiliser-digestate-potential</a></p>
<p>Lastly, I wanted to ask, given your long-lasting research into the topic of B12 in plants, how far away in time do you see the consolidation of a body of research that is enough for a natural vegan source to be considered a reliable B12 source? </p>
<p>(PD: I take my supplements, I&#8217;m just interested for self-sufficient/low-tech community building reasons)</p>
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		By: JackNorrisRD		</title>
		<link>https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5557</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2025 20:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5556&quot;&gt;Dalibor&lt;/a&gt;.

Dalibor,

The results of that study, &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308814625015535&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow ugc&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sea lettuce (Ulva fenestrata) as a rich source of cobalamin (vitamin B12)&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, are impressive enough for me to add &lt;em&gt;U. fenestrata&lt;/em&gt; to this article, which I&#039;ll move toward the top of my to-do list. But it&#039;s not enough to promote sea lettuce as a recommended source of B12. As the authors state in their concluding sentence, &quot;Nevertheless, bioavailability trials are necessary to determine the extent to which vitamin B12 from these products is absorbed and reaches systemic circulation.&quot;

Thank you for point me to this study!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5556">Dalibor</a>.</p>
<p>Dalibor,</p>
<p>The results of that study, <a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308814625015535" rel="nofollow ugc"><em>Sea lettuce (Ulva fenestrata) as a rich source of cobalamin (vitamin B12)</em></a>, are impressive enough for me to add <em>U. fenestrata</em> to this article, which I&#8217;ll move toward the top of my to-do list. But it&#8217;s not enough to promote sea lettuce as a recommended source of B12. As the authors state in their concluding sentence, &#8220;Nevertheless, bioavailability trials are necessary to determine the extent to which vitamin B12 from these products is absorbed and reaches systemic circulation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you for point me to this study!</p>
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		By: Dalibor		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2025 11:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5485&quot;&gt;JackNorrisRD&lt;/a&gt;.

This?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308814625015535]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5485">JackNorrisRD</a>.</p>
<p>This?</p>
<p><a href="https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308814625015535" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308814625015535</a></p>
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		By: JackNorrisRD		</title>
		<link>https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5549</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JackNorrisRD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2025 00:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5542&quot;&gt;D&lt;/a&gt;.

D,

I updated this page in November of 2024, but forgot to change the Last Updated date at the bottom. However, I don&#039;t update this article unless research comes out that I think is relevant enough to justify it. You don&#039;t provide any research to back up your claims that I&#039;m wrong about anything (or everything?) in this article. If there is research to suggest I&#039;m wrong, I want to know about it.

I receive no money from any supplement company—my only goal here is to make sure vegans have the most accurate information possible. I&#039;ve been a vegan since 1988, I&#039;ve read hundreds of studies on vitamin B12 and vegans, and I take a multivitamin with B12 every day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5542">D</a>.</p>
<p>D,</p>
<p>I updated this page in November of 2024, but forgot to change the Last Updated date at the bottom. However, I don&#8217;t update this article unless research comes out that I think is relevant enough to justify it. You don&#8217;t provide any research to back up your claims that I&#8217;m wrong about anything (or everything?) in this article. If there is research to suggest I&#8217;m wrong, I want to know about it.</p>
<p>I receive no money from any supplement company—my only goal here is to make sure vegans have the most accurate information possible. I&#8217;ve been a vegan since 1988, I&#8217;ve read hundreds of studies on vitamin B12 and vegans, and I take a multivitamin with B12 every day.</p>
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		By: D		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2025 05:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5350&quot;&gt;JackNorrisRD&lt;/a&gt;.

I think you are full of BS.. it almost seems like you are trying to sell b12 supplements, and push a contrived narrative to justify it. 

I think its time you update this info. 5 years was a long time ago, and the narrative has shifted, in a way that doesnt not warrant your denials of adequacy in non animal product sources of b12 and other analogues]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5350">JackNorrisRD</a>.</p>
<p>I think you are full of BS.. it almost seems like you are trying to sell b12 supplements, and push a contrived narrative to justify it. </p>
<p>I think its time you update this info. 5 years was a long time ago, and the narrative has shifted, in a way that doesnt not warrant your denials of adequacy in non animal product sources of b12 and other analogues</p>
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		By: JackNorrisRD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JackNorrisRD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2024 00:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5488&quot;&gt;The Claud&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t look into plant foods that might have B12 until there&#039;s been research published about them. If you find some research, please pass it on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5488">The Claud</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t look into plant foods that might have B12 until there&#8217;s been research published about them. If you find some research, please pass it on.</p>
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		By: The Claud		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2024 07:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Have you looked into borș? A Romanian traditional liquid ingredient used to render soups more sour also well-known for its benefits and sometimes drank by itself as a cure.
It&#039;s made by fermenting wheat bran and it&#039;s been found to contain good quantities of B12.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you looked into borș? A Romanian traditional liquid ingredient used to render soups more sour also well-known for its benefits and sometimes drank by itself as a cure.<br />
It&#8217;s made by fermenting wheat bran and it&#8217;s been found to contain good quantities of B12.</p>
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		By: JackNorrisRD		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JackNorrisRD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2024 23:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#comment-5486&quot;&gt;Mykyta&lt;/a&gt;.

Mykyta,

I cover it in the section on Nori above: https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#nori]]></description>
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<p>Mykyta,</p>
<p>I cover it in the section on Nori above: <a href="https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#nori" rel="ugc">https://veganhealth.org/vitamin-b12/vitamin-b12-plant-foods/#nori</a></p>
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		By: Mykyta		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mykyta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2024 22:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This 2014 nori study results looks strange, could you maybe review them? HoloTC improved, MMA improved only in low dose group. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00394-024-03505-9]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This 2014 nori study results looks strange, could you maybe review them? HoloTC improved, MMA improved only in low dose group. <a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00394-024-03505-9" rel="nofollow ugc">https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00394-024-03505-9</a></p>
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